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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thoughts Photek and Andy...I love it when we think outside the box!
Here is the given definition of Tao, Andy is correct; it's pronounced "Dou" or "Dow".I think #3 comes closest to what Photek is talking about:
TAO:
1.(in philosophical Taoism) that in virtue of which all things happen or exist.
2.the rational basis of human activity or conduct.
3.a universal, regarded as an ideal attained to a greater or lesser degree by those embodying it.
Tsing:
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Tsin:
Tsin or Chin, dynasty of China that ruled from 265 to 420, after the period of the Three Kingdoms. It was divided into two phases: the Western Tsin (265-317) and the Eastern Tsin (317-420). The dynasty was founded by the Wei general Ssu-ma Yen, who by 280 had completed the conquest of China. But after his death in 290, the empire fell apart again in the dynastic struggle known as the Revolt of Eight Kings. Meanwhile the northern nomadic Xiongnu (Huns) attacked the Chinese frontier and, in the 310s, destroyed the two capitals of the Western Tsin in Northern China. In 317, a prince of the Ssu-ma family established the Eastern Tsin dynasty, one of the Six Dynasties, at Nanjing, in Southern China. A series of dynasties, mainly of barbaric origin, ruled N China for about 250 years. The Eastern Tsin relied on the support of great northern families, who brought Chinese culture to the southeast. A large number of Buddhist texts were translated into Chinese from Indian or Central Asian sources as Buddhism gained popularity. Its art, architecture, and philosophy greatly influenced the culture of both Western and Easter Tsin. Some of the best-known Chinese cultural figures lived in this period, such as the poet T'ao Ch'ien (T'ao Yuan-ming, 372?-427), the artist Ku K'ai-chih (344-406?), and the calligrapher Wang Hsi-chih (321-379). In the period between the division of the Tsin and the founding of the Sui dynasty, China was never united.
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A mace (Hong Kong English usage also: tsin) is a traditional Chinese measurement of weight in East Asia that was also used as a currency denomination. It is equal to 10 candareens and is 1/10 of a tael or approximately 3.78 grams. A troy candareen is approximately 3.74 grams. In Hong Kong, one mace is 3.779936375 gramme. and in Ordinance 22 of 1884, it is oz. avoir.
In imperial China, 10 candareens equaled 1 mace which was 1/10 of a tael and, like the other units, was used in weight-denominated silver currency system. A common denomination was 7 mace and 2 candareens, equal to one silver Chinese yuan.

I am gathering then that the proper usage would be TSIN (meaning Dynasty as I don't think in our inference it means a MACE as per the second definition) and I can see that this could be easily bastardized to Tsing.
The second word being the operative or first spoken regardless of it's secondary placement in the title:

Tsin(g)-Tao means: Universal Dynasty

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once-bitten wrote:

The second word being the operative or first spoken regardless of it's secondary placement in the title:

Tsin(g)-Tao means: Universal Dynasty

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Here is what I've posted many moons ago on another Tsin(g) Tao thread :

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BTW, did you know that TSINGTAO means GREEN ISLAND ?

the company was first established in 1903 in the harbor of Tsingtao city by Germans during colonial times... nowadays, it's the world's topseller beer company with more than 25 millions liters produced every year !



In this case too BR was ahead of it's time, making it one of the main drinks of the year 2019...


This info was found on a french site devoted to beer brands...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les français font mon âne mouvement convulsif!

I like my definition better.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once-bitten wrote:
Les français font mon âne mouvement convulsif!

I like my definition better.


I think you guys should try to write in french more often, some of these threads would be funnier, at least for Phil / repdetect and me !!!


Yours is a definition, mine is the true origin of the brand's name !
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to type in French...It's like you guy's have a different word for everything!
HEY! What do you mean TRY to type in French?!
Are you implying my English to French translation program is not everything it aught to be?
Mes odeurs de mère des baies plus anciennes!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once-bitten wrote:
Mes odeurs de mère des baies plus anciennes!

Take that! Laughing


OOOOOCH !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once-bitten wrote:
TAO:
1.(in philosophical Taoism) that in virtue of which all things happen or exist.
2.the rational basis of human activity or conduct.
3.a universal, regarded as an ideal attained to a greater or lesser degree by those embodying it.

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Thoughts about Taoism? Sure... enjoy! Wink

http://www.daily-tao.com/ (Gia Fu Feng and Jane English's Tao Te Ching website)

http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/cowching.html (parody)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was so fed up to see both my spanish / decorative bottles naked that I've decided to dress one of them as a 2019 Jack Daniel's bottle... (BTW, the small label on the back is a "princess Tsing Tao stamp" I've seen the other day on eBay)


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey !...This last one is great Fred !! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Très bon travail...je suis impressioné! Translation for Once-bitten: very good work...I am impressed!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for your appreciation, guys !
If you want to customize one of yours the same way, all you'll have to do is buy 2 J. Daniel's bottles and a black ribbon... If you need files of the stamp (look at the back of bottle), PM me and I'll send them (for free, of course) !

BTW, what happened to Paul ? Haven't heard of him for a while and his ID picture looks like it has been removed...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: yes ....VERY Reply with quote

VERY COOL , JD has A LONG LONG future!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if I'm beating an old drum, but it seems to me that when you see the shot with the Esper machine and the famous J.D wisky bottles beside it, you can see that one of the bottles is smaller than the other and that the ribbon is different and the cap is either missing or is different from the one we're used to seeing. I know that there was a thread mentioning a smaller bottle on the table near the curio cabinet(dismissed as a optical illusion due to camera distortion).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joberg wrote:
Sorry if I'm beating an old drum, but it seems to me that when you see the shot with the Esper machine and the famous J.D wisky bottles beside it, you can see that one of the bottles is smaller than the other and that the ribbon is different and the cap is either missing or is different from the one we're used to seeing. I know that there was a thread mentioning a smaller bottle on the table near the curio cabinet(dismissed as a optical illusion due to camera distortion).

Any thoughts on this?


Wrong thread for this. Look here...
http://propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=603&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

The shots at the esper were shot at different times depending on camera angle. The bottles are actually different bottles alltogether.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to split hairs Joberg, but i think you were also referring to the Johnny Walker Black bottles and not Jack Daniels (I enjoy both!)?

Skin Job 66 - NICE WORK on the Spanish bottles!!!! Before too long, we will have enough material for a fan-based sequel w/o ever shooting a single frame!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy, I'm talking about the still photo showing the front of the Esper machine with the 2 bottles (recreated by O.B.)...seems to me that one is different i.e. smaller than the other.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't find the photo you are talking about. Help?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy, same forum posted by Snake Tue Mar 04-2008 at 2:05 AM.
Picture of the Esper shows 4 bottles all in all 2 (model done by O.B.) one indistinguishable behind those(right hand side)and another with a long neck and a bulbous body. What is that last one?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one?...


I see what you are talking about as far as the perspective making them look smaller, but you can tell the camera is pointing up at the Esper and the bottles are not necessarily next to each other. Regardless they are both JW bottles and not the bottle the thread is about.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have long thought that those two whiskey bottles are of far different sizes...too far to be explained by mere perspective alone. Look at them...they almost line up exactly in the shoulder area. It's apparent to me at the very least that we are looking at two different neck sizes of the same whiskey bottle. But Andy is right, this isn't the thread for that.

This thread is about the "other" mystery bottle which I think has been hashed over a bit by now...so I'm going to bring up another mystery bottle and I'm sure it's been mentioned before. I've never mentioned it though because I didn't want to become obsessed with trying to find it.
It's there in the pic Andy just posted. Circled in red here...What is it? Does anyone know? I'm certain it's NOT a Tsin-Tao Bottle.
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