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Bwood Community Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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$250K sounds pretty serious to me. |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: |
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It is, but what IF a true collector saw that it was NOT as it was found and thus not still totally original (as I would) he might feel it was tainted and less valuable now that someone mucked around with it??
A guy repainted a 1956 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing with metal flake paint a $3000.00 paint job.
At a classic car auction that $3000.00 paint job DEvalued the car by $10,000.00 as it was not a stock type paint job.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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propsjonnyb Community Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Posts: 476 Location: Helmdon, Northamptonshire UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:56 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Rich , for what it's worth, the 'hero' was refurbished at some time in the past - even 'Profiles in History' acknowledge that fact - so the gun is still not "original" -as it was at the end of the film, from what I know ( as my uncle worked on the film) from his diaries and what he had told me over the years , at the end of the film when Ridley Scott ordered the sets & props to be struck and destroyed, the gun was decomissioned ( the firing pin was removed, the barrel blocked and all the wires were cut to render the prop 'safe ' as per normal film production requirements if a weapon were produced specifically for a film . I don't know what happened to the prop after that , I speculate that along with some other bit's and bob's that did survive, they were 'acquired' and sold on to various collectors . At some point the 'hero' was refurbished - the photographic proof of that is quite evident - I suspect the weaver's knob was added along with the binding post and the grip repaired as well as the electronics being re-wired -prior to it ending up in the auction - Rich handled the 'original' at Worldcon , Karl Tate photgraphed it extensively , I don't know if Rich 'dry fired' the gun to see if it still operated mechanically, I'm sure he'll tell us if he did , and now Rich has made considerable improvements which I ( and all those Forum member's ) and everyone else will benefit from , several on this board already have produced excelent 'doppelganger' replicas - now we can get even closer, in look and feel to the 'original' hero - which puts a smile on my face , I can tell you ! |
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Gaff87 Community Member

Joined: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 1727 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that great info propsjonnyb.  |
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andy Community Guide

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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being a one of a kind item, the "refurbishing" would not have affected the value much at all, since there aren't other better ones to buy elsewhere. Also according to Profiles in History staff, the only work done on it by them was a mild cleaning and oiling to prevent further rust, and the replacement of the wires, battery and the non functioning LED's. Since they used thicker wires, they had to put them in a different configuration that they had been unfortunately.
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Staar Community Member

Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 757 Location: AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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andy wrote: | being a one of a kind item, the "refurbishing" would not have affected the value much at all, since there aren't other better ones to buy elsewhere. Also according to Profiles in History staff, the only work done on it by them was a mild cleaning and oiling to prevent further rust, and the replacement of the wires, battery and the non functioning LED's. Since they used thicker wires, they had to put them in a different configuration that they had been unfortunately.
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I have to agree with Andy here..
The fact that the blaster is the only one and confirmed as the original will make its sale unique. True specialists (like the members here) might quibble about the issue of the Weaver knob or the wire repairs - which I hate with a passion because its so badly done, but in all honesty it won't have a huge impact on the final sale price. This is not someone who has taken a Sharpie to darken the lettering on the Declaration of Independence.
From a price point of view, I have to say that a figure of $250k is in my view not a lot to pay for that type of collectable. There are many collectors who are especially well heeled and for them a quarter of a Mill is reasonable money, not serious money. I have a relative who spent $200K on a damn cupboard!!!
If as Rich said, it might have lost $10,000 (like the Merc) for shoddy repairs, then in the overall scheme a loss of $10k from a price of $250k is insignificant. _________________
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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OK today is the last day of the extended deadline.
Midnight tonight is the dead line.
I am already in production of these models.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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ironfist Community Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 310 Location: East Hartford,CT
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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YUP! What he said! Get your name on the list! You only got around 6 hours left!!!!! _________________ The other Karl! |
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E-Wan Community Member
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 22 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Oh man, I can't resist. The kit looks incredible - sign me up for one! |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome aboard.
Please email me your info so I can track things in folders.
Thanks.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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Barrels Community Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2008 Posts: 21 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: RACPROPS Prop Summit Blaster KIT. ( Limited Edition ) |
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Hello Karl
I know it´s a few hours to late, but could you add me to the list, please.
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ironfist Community Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 310 Location: East Hartford,CT
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Barrels You Are Number 30 on the list and the last person on the list! PM your contact/shipping information to Rich along with your prop summit name.
30 kits! Not bad guys.
DEADLINE HAS NOW PASSED! _________________ The other Karl! |
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ItalianNinja86 Community Member
Joined: 11 Feb 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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So how soon do you think kits will start shipping Rich? |
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ironfist Community Member

Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 310 Location: East Hartford,CT
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Rich thinks kit's can start to ship as soon as the end of the month. Please post when payment is sent so I can update the first post. Thank you. _________________ The other Karl! |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Two things.
First not everyone has sent me a email with their contact info and propsummit handle and their wishes for which model and when they would like to get it, either Jan or Feb or March...
The Deluxe will be made along side my building of my normal run of full finished models so will most likely be ready to start shipping in Feb and March.
Paymant will be asked for when your kit is ready to ship.
I like PayPal as it is a great record keeper.
And thanks to everyone who has joined.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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ItalianNinja86 Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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awesome Rich
I can hardly wait  |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the drill and tap needs and the Allen wrenches needed I come up with:
7 Taps
10 Wire sized Drill bits and one US standard drill, 11 drill bits..total.
And
5 Allen wrenches.
I am thinking of a group buy, I will see what I can get buying 30 to 50 of everything and then as only the costs for a tool kit.
What do you think of this??
The drills are: 20, 21, 30, 33, 35, 23, 45, 46, 50, 56, and 11/64
Taps needed are: 0/80, 2/56, 3/48, 4/40, 6/40, 8/32, 10/32
I have not got all the Allen wrenches sizes yet.
And for those with 4 x 36 or the 6 inch wide big belt sanders I will sell my special ordered 320 and 400 grit belts.. if needed.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Also for those in the UK and Japan I have made a mold for casting Plastic cartridges, as even owning unloaded rounds can cause trouble…
And a solid pewter barrel machined and drilled back apox. ½ the way back with the correct 44 bore is now standard. (And again less trouble in these countries…)
Also the new Steyr receiver will include real set screw not the last model cast in ones.
Also the instructions will be a set of pictures taken during a build of one of the latest models with notes and tips on how to best build these.
These will be posted on line for down loading.
And I will be here to answer questions and offer advice and help.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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racprops Community Member

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2450 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: |
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This has been a great deal:
But:
At this time I have by my count only received about 1/2 of the signer’s emails.
So I do not know who wants their model in Jan or Feb or March. Or which version and rather they want a stand or not.
I have created folders in my Outlook Email system for each month and with stands and the deluxe model. This lets me know who wants their model and track my filling orders.
I need those emails, please.
I even have a person who is going to make payments to pay for his kit. If you have tight times I can work with you...
I have been locating and ordering all the many parts I need for these based on the 30 count.
I am casting the new parts for these kits.
So if you on the list please send me your email if you have not done so yet, please include your contact info and which model and when you want it sent.
Thanks all.
Rich _________________ I never have enough time to do all I want to do! |
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BeastMaster Community Member

Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 995 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Rich, is it possible to post a picture of a raw cast part? say one that would need the most clean up. would be good to get an idea of how much work is needed as I can imagine like myself alot of people dont own a belt sander and will have to do alot of manual sanding/filing.
The toolkit sounds like a good idea, though how much extra do you think it will cost? otherwise I have lots of drills and allen keys that would probably fit the bill, but I dont have any taps, so they would be a necessity for me. _________________ "F*ck it, it's just a movie. Let him worry about it" Harrison Ford |
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