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SCOFFMAN
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| jameth wrote: | | Rodney wrote: | | I very much NEED a GLASS version of Deckard's bottle of Johnnie Walker Black. Is there any hope for me? |
I believe Paul is finally sold out of them. The last intact one went for about $700 in less than an hour. The last cracked one went for about $450.
They come up for sale here once in a while but they are not cheap. |
Holy crap, you're kidding me!?! I knew they'd most likely be valuable but I didn't think they'd be worth that much! I totally lucked out because when they came up for sale to the public, I locked in for #2, but when the price went up because of the number of bottles that were damaged in shipping the guy that had #1 dropped out so I ended up getting it. That was of the 60 that were sold to the 'public' as I remember a number of them were reserved as "artist proofs" and whatnot for those that had contributed to the project. If I remember correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the original production run was for 160 bottles, and somewhere around half of that made it to the states intact. If the number of intact bottles was accurate that would mean that if 60 were sold to the public and there would have been around 20 others that were given to contributors, etc.
I also picked up a second bottle that has a crack in one of the corners of the lower half of the upper section...it's pretty much cosmetic as it hasn't affected the the integrity of the bottle; i.e. it holds liquid without leaking. I picked up the second bottle mainly so I'd have something I COULD put real scotch in and be able to use it without worrying about breaking it and having a collectible go down the drain... but seeing how even a cracked bottle has gone for recently I'm thinking I might want to put that one up on the shelf too! I think I also probably lucked out that at the time I picked up the cracked bottle I picked up two complete sets of the labels and wax seals which I still have in storage at this point. One is for the cracked bottle, and one was an extra in case I screwed something up.
Anyway, I'm not really trying to brag, I'm just jazzed I was lucky enough to find this site at the right time to be able to get in on something like this. And just in case anyone wants to ask - no, I am not interested in selling either bottle at this point in time!
OK, the original reason I started to post on this topic was about the cap... the instructions given for the bottle was to modify a Finlandia Vodka plastic bottle cap which isn't totally satisfactory. Also there's no option (obviously) for a twist-type bottle cap. My solution for this problem was to use a stopper from a bottle of Glenrothes scotch to which I glued an unmodified cap from a Fris Vodka bottle. The stopper consists of a synthetic 'cork' material with a wood top. It fits the BRWB almost perfectly and the wooden top fits almost exactly inside the Fris cap. The cap itself (unless they've changed it recently) appears to be an aluminum sheet or blank that's been press-fit over the top of a plastic screw-top. It is shorter and slightly fatter than the Findlandia cap, and IMHO is more screen accurate.
Now, I'm not suggesting you have to go out and buy a bottle of Glenrothes (unless you want to and are a single malt fan; it's one of my personal favorites) since it starts around $60 a bottle... but if you go to your local homebrew/wineshop you may very well be able to find a similar stopper for less than a buck... then you only have to buy a bottle of Fris which I think was for around $20-25. And if you are so inclined to drink it, it's pretty decent vodka as well.
I don't currently have a closeup picture of the stopper/cap assembly, but here's a pic of my bottle with many of my BR props for reference.
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Excellent collection Scoffman...glad you got the bottle!  |
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Rodney
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That is kinda out of my price range. I guess my only hope is that someone will make another run and those will more affordable.
The more I think about it though, would they go to the trouble to make a bottle just for this movie? I know Ridley Scott was very demanding on this movie, but I still think this has to be a found item. Maybe someone will stumble across it one day. I bet those would be VERY valuable. |
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joberg
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The only one with the answer to that question should be Ridley  |
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The quest for the One True Bottle goes on and on. If it is a found object, it must've been a small production in the product line. There's also that one image of the bottle silhouette with the initials RS on it. So it's possible that it was scratch built by the production company. I doubt they'd have gone through all the trouble of doing in glass tho. Most likely it was just a vac formed bottle and they ran off a few copies to throw in as set dressing.
Another question is after 20 years, how well would one of those plastic bottles have held up? I'd be willing to bet the plastic would've degraded and opaqued by now. But even so, if found it would give a line on what the product was, and who made it.
Thing to remember about any film is that the production is ephemeral, the props are built to win, but not to last we on the other hand work the opposite way, we look to reproduce when possible, functional reproductions. We assume there was a glass bottle because we hear a cork squeak sound FX when Bryant uncorks it, but that's all stuff that's layered in during post production.
I'm sure it was looked into when the glass ones were being made, but did anyone ever check with CiBi to see if they made a decanter like that?
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| The Loyalizer wrote: | | ... did anyone ever check with CiBi to see if they made a decanter like that? |
Arnolfo di Cambio does make a Cibi decanter, and it is kinda square, but nothing like that bottle. I love my Cibi double old fashioned glasses but I think the decanter is kinda ugly. |
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I also dig that ashtray they make, but it's kinda a steep price for something I'm going to butt smokes out in.
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Again, and I'm going to try to remember what my source told my Father (source that cannot be named since he's still in the movie business): when props were presented to Ridley/set decorator/propmaster, they only had 2 glass bottles that were to become the design of the, now famous, whiskey bottle. (found item according to my source).
It seems that Ridley/propmaster loved that bottle so much that he/they wanted a few copies made for production. Vac-formed copies (a dozen or so according to my source) were made. The main problem with those is that all of them were leaking; he doesn't know if they tried to fix the problem but, in the end, those copies were used in production to decorate the set and basically became static props. None were used with any sort of liquid in them, or handled by the actors on set...no need to say that during principal photography there was tense moments: no one wanted one of the actor handling the prop, or someone from the crew to accidentally knock one on the ground. 
During and after principal photography a few plastic bottles were either stolen or destroyed...a few survived, but he doesn't know where are the glass ones  |
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