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repdetect Community Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Taking a look now.
Just saw the "Someone Ele's Memories" and really liked it. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for sharing repdetect; I like people making an effort at putting their own spin on a story...it's well made ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: UNBELIEVABLE |
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THIS IS SO COOL I CANT SIT STILL!
What the HELL!
.....Is there copies of the finished product?! _________________ I've seen things ....you people appear to be intrested in ... |
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phase pistol Community Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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That first clip illustrates some of the clunkiness of the Deckard narration.
We see the Salome poster featuring Zhora, and we hear Deckard say
"A snake scale... a snake... a snake dancer... a replicant? It was way too thin..."
Well, no it's not. Deckard has seen the files on the renegade replicants, including photos... he knows what Zhora looks like! He does not need to puzzle over whether "Salome" is Zhora... he can recognize her instantly!
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steevy Community Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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I never understood that either PP why need a VK or anything else if you have pictures retina scans,prints etc?I figured the replicants could radically alter there appearance and other biometric data.That doesn't seem to be the case. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Actually that's a great point, Holden knew the identities of the replicants, why did he try to put "the machine" on Leon? The freakin' SECRETARY even knows who Leon is, and announces him over the PA!
Deckard never uses the VK except on Rachael... and the concept is, the VK can "tell if any given individual is a replicant", so it makes sense. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Well, at the end of the scene with Leon, Holden has his blaster in his hand; I always thought that Holden was supposed to kill Leon...it was a little bit like a scene in a saloon: who could draw first. Leon smelled a trap and was quicker...move on, move on... |
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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...also, maybe he was stalling Leon and waiting for backup? |
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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The implication is that the VK is the only way to identify them.Holden is interviewing recent hires to Tyrell because the one replicant fried in the defense fields is a clue that they are interested in Tyrell.He doesn't match Leon to a photo,Retina scan,print etc so those must be unreliable.He presumably VKed all male employees hired past a certain date(the approx arrival time on earth) one of whom was Leon. |
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steevy wrote: | The implication is that the VK is the only way to identify them.Holden is interviewing recent hires to Tyrell because the one replicant fried in the defense fields is a clue that they are interested in Tyrell.He doesn't match Leon to a photo,Retina scan,print etc so those must be unreliable.He presumably VKed all male employees hired past a certain date(the approx arrival time on earth) one of whom was Leon. |
There's the theory that the incept files on the escaped replicants hadn't been received yet when Holden was sent out to Tyrell Corp.
I think its also something that carried over from the book, where there is the suggestion that androids are based design-wise off of real existing people, and that sometimes they escape and murder those people and assume their identities. At one point in the book, one of the characters suggests to Deckard that perhaps he did killed the real Deckard and assumed his identity.
The VK test is the only on-site means of determining if the subject is human or replicant.
And, while we're on the subject, who here's going to take a crack at the replicant files that are seen in the deleted footage? _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have any info on how to get the dvd of 4.0?
Are any of his older cuts available anywhere?..I've checked torrent sites with no luck.
I'm really hoping to see this! |
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